Ty Anderson: Continuous Thunder: Canucks roll Bruins

18 goals in the last four games. The Canucks offense have come alive....and man Horvat's hit really hurts. 19 yr old Horvat and Chara go shoulder-to-shoulder and Horvat took him down.......Chara is growing old....

Ty Anderson: Continuous Thunder: Canucks roll Bruins
- tyanderson

I would rather Boychuck as the number 1 or 2 D man........

Hamilton, 21 yrs old, as the number 1 or 2, but with a growth into the number 1......

Seidenberg as the number 4......

Krug as the PP specialist, 5.....

Miller as the number 6........

Bart as an EVENTUAL number 4 or 3.......


UFA......Andrej Sekera from Car............Christian Ehrhoff, Pitt........Jeff Petry, Edm........Marc Staal, NY Rags......

Or trade for Yandle with moderate prospects and a third at the most......


That is the ideal D line up......with one of those FA signings in the off season.

But........we will keep Chara as Philly did with Pronger, until he disappears into the sunset and everyone asks three years from now.........

What the hell ever happened to that really big guy we had playing D?

This Chara issue is coming down to the exact same as the Pronger issue with Philly......

Canucks were dominant in that game. The Bruins were making bad plays under pressure. Kassian's pass to Matthias on two of his goals were nice and the hits were being laid out on both sides... Kassian challenged Chara at one point.

Both teams are definitely a shell of themselves when you compare them to the 2011 SCF teams.

Both teams are definitely a shell of themselves when you compare them to the 2011 SCF teams.
- Nucker101

Double

Boston looked like they were broken. It seems like something more than an age thing. Bruins looked okay for a short stretch early in the third period but Vancouver turned it up a notch and Boston had nothing left in the tank.

Be a huge mistake for Chiarelli to try and buy talent at deadline. Smarter move would be to sell. The Bruins need a pause and a rebuild. I don't think it gets better next year. Boston has difficulty keeping up with the pace of play. They are too slow. Speed kills and the young fast teams are starting to dominate the Bruins.

I think Florida overtakes them for last playoff spot. Maybe the Bruins get lucky and win the McDavid sweeps.

You can have Jordan Leopold? UFA rental...perhaps Cam Atkinson/Jordan Leopold for=?

Ty, you really need to stop with the Bartkowski nonsense. Seriously, I don't get your love affair with this guy. Yes, admittedly, Seidenberg has been quite lousy since returning from the injury, compared to his old self. The problem is turnovers are only a small part of the Bartkowski Syndrome. He's constantly out of position, fails to properly cover his men, make dumb hockey decisions, and takes stupid or lazy penalties at the worst times.
Being a dedefensive-minded coach, don't you think Julien would utilize him if he trusted him for some sort of contribution? As far as his puck-moving skill is concerned, where are the points if he eas such a capable puck-mover?
The problem is this team is a bad mix thanks to poor decisions by the GM. The Seguin trade was a complete disaster. Complete and utter disaster. Eriksson hasn't been what he was, whether it's due to injury or not, Smith has completely regressed and should be a trade piece now, Morrow is nowhere to be found, and Fraser was a fourth-line mucker who's gone. The Boychuk trade was a huge blunder that tore apart the defensive fabric of this team. Looking for cap space, the smarter thing would've been moving the much less talented and injury-prone McQuaid, the useless Bartkowski, and never wasting $600k on Gagne.
Chiarelli needs to redeem himself and revamp this roster. Smith, Soderberg, Eriksson, Bartkowski, McQuaid, and many others should be on the block. As nice a player as Soderberg is, you can't overpay him for what he brings. That's the formula that put this twam in Cap Hell in the first place.

Ty, you really need to stop with the Bartkowski nonsense. Seriously, I don't get your love affair with this guy. Yes, admittedly, Seidenberg has been quite lousy since returning from the injury, compared to his old self. The problem is turnovers are only a small part of the Bartkowski Syndrome. He's constantly out of position, fails to properly cover his men, make dumb hockey decisions, and takes stupid or lazy penalties at the worst times.
Being a dedefensive-minded coach, don't you think Julien would utilize him if he trusted him for some sort of contribution? As far as his puck-moving skill is concerned, where are the points if he eas such a capable puck-mover?
The problem is this team is a bad mix thanks to poor decisions by the GM. The Seguin trade was a complete disaster. Complete and utter disaster. Eriksson hasn't been what he was, whether it's due to injury or not, Smith has completely regressed and should be a trade piece now, Morrow is nowhere to be found, and Fraser was a fourth-line mucker who's gone. The Boychuk trade was a huge blunder that tore apart the defensive fabric of this team. Looking for cap space, the smarter thing would've been moving the much less talented and injury-prone McQuaid, the useless Bartkowski, and never wasting $600k on Gagne.
Chiarelli needs to redeem himself and revamp this roster. Smith, Soderberg, Eriksson, Bartkowski, McQuaid, and many others should be on the block. As nice a player as Soderberg is, you can't overpay him for what he brings. That's the formula that put this twam in Cap Hell in the first place.
- Der_Fuhrer22

The Cdn dollar is holding at $.80. This is 8% below Daly guideline of $.87 for cap to come in at $72m. There will be no cap relief. Good chance cap will be reduced if players waive 5% escalator. This appears likely. Players fear being roled back on escrow.

Chiarelli would be wise to get ahead of the curve role back salaries. Cap space will be gold next fall. Bunch of teams are in trouble. The ones that break out of cap jail first will be put in a great advantage going forward.

Ty, you really need to stop with the Bartkowski nonsense. Seriously, I don't get your love affair with this guy. Yes, admittedly, Seidenberg has been quite lousy since returning from the injury, compared to his old self. The problem is turnovers are only a small part of the Bartkowski Syndrome. He's constantly out of position, fails to properly cover his men, make dumb hockey decisions, and takes stupid or lazy penalties at the worst times.
Being a dedefensive-minded coach, don't you think Julien would utilize him if he trusted him for some sort of contribution? As far as his puck-moving skill is concerned, where are the points if he eas such a capable puck-mover?
The problem is this team is a bad mix thanks to poor decisions by the GM. The Seguin trade was a complete disaster. Complete and utter disaster. Eriksson hasn't been what he was, whether it's due to injury or not, Smith has completely regressed and should be a trade piece now, Morrow is nowhere to be found, and Fraser was a fourth-line mucker who's gone. The Boychuk trade was a huge blunder that tore apart the defensive fabric of this team. Looking for cap space, the smarter thing would've been moving the much less talented and injury-prone McQuaid, the useless Bartkowski, and never wasting $600k on Gagne.
Chiarelli needs to redeem himself and revamp this roster. Smith, Soderberg, Eriksson, Bartkowski, McQuaid, and many others should be on the block. As nice a player as Soderberg is, you can't overpay him for what he brings. That's the formula that put this twam in Cap Hell in the first place.
- Der_Fuhrer22

Not trying to start an online argument because trust me, I hate when guys are trolls and that crap drives me nuts, but where are you going to get a player like Loui for 4.5 mill?

I know Bartkowski may not be the answer, but Seidenberg has been less than average this year, and that's being generous. They're sliding back into November form and something has to change.

Its frustrating (some would say mind-numbing) to watch. I think Chiarelli will make some minor tweaks (please, move Reilly Smith). It would be silly to go for it this year and sacrifice the future.

Not trying to start an online argument because trust me, I hate when guys are trolls and that crap drives me nuts, but where are you going to get a player like Loui for 4.5 mill?

I know Bartkowski may not be the answer, but Seidenberg has been less than average this year, and that's being generous. They're sliding back into November form and something has to change.

Its frustrating (some would say mind-numbing) to watch. I think Chiarelli will make some minor tweaks (please, move Reilly Smith). It would be silly to go for it this year and sacrifice the future.
- CapeBruiner

I think if any anything they can make some moderate moves to improve the team. They need to bring in a winger and a defenceman. A dman that can slot into a 3-4 position. Assets they could dangle are Spooner, a 2nd and 3rd.

What would it cost to bring in Stewart and Petry? Nothing fancy but it improves the team. Doesn't cost a lot and gives them a shot.

I think if any anything they can make some moderate moves to improve the team. They need to bring in a winger and a defenceman. A dman that can slot into a 3-4 position. Assets they could dangle are Spooner, a 2nd and 3rd.

What would it cost to bring in Stewart and Petry? Nothing fancy but it improves the team. Doesn't cost a lot and gives them a shot.
- Tachmo

I've watched quite a few Edmonton games and the jury is still out on Petry. Some nights he looks great and other nights he makes some mind-boggling mistakes. Guess it goes along with playing in Edmonton. Maybe he'd play better if he was playing in another uniform?

I've watched quite a few Edmonton games and the jury is still out on Petry. Some nights he looks great and other nights he makes some mind-boggling mistakes. Guess it goes along with playing in Edmonton. Maybe he'd play better if he was playing in another uniform?
- CapeBruiner

Petry may not be much of an improvement that's for sure.

Apparently Sean Bergenheim is not happy and wants out of Florida. Throw him on that 4th line? He has just as many goals as Paille, Campbell, and Cunningham combined.

On the other hand, when you're a healthy scratch for quite a few games in Florida, is he even worth looking at?

Apparently Sean Bergenheim is not happy and wants out of Florida. Throw him on that 4th line? He has just as many goals as Paille, Campbell, and Cunningham combined.

On the other hand, when you're a healthy scratch for quite a few games in Florida, is he even worth looking at?
- CapeBruiner

That guy is interesting simply because he likes to perform rin the playoffs. His track record in the post season is excellent.

That guy is interesting simply because he likes to perform rin the playoffs. His track record in the post season is excellent.
- vancity787

Yeah, he had that big year in Tampa. He's only 31. He's gotta have something left.

What do you think the Canucks do at the deadline? They're pretty well in the same position as the Bs with that decision (Rebuild/re-tool or make a push).

Yeah, he had that big year in Tampa. He's only 31. He's gotta have something left.

What do you think the Canucks do at the deadline? They're pretty well in the same position as the Bs with that decision (Rebuild/re-tool or make a push).
- CapeBruiner

Honestly man. I havent got a clue what to expect. The only thing in the canucks favor right now is games in hand.

I think they're in the market for some top six forwards (As they should be) But will not give away our Farm system for it. Because for the first time we actually have prospects.

I'd rather lose in the first round than give away the future. Were not nearly good enough to go deep anyways.

Leafs management disagrees with me.

Ty, you really need to stop with the Bartkowski nonsense. Seriously, I don't get your love affair with this guy. Yes, admittedly, Seidenberg has been quite lousy since returning from the injury, compared to his old self. The problem is turnovers are only a small part of the Bartkowski Syndrome. He's constantly out of position, fails to properly cover his men, make dumb hockey decisions, and takes stupid or lazy penalties at the worst times.
Being a dedefensive-minded coach, don't you think Julien would utilize him if he trusted him for some sort of contribution? As far as his puck-moving skill is concerned, where are the points if he eas such a capable puck-mover?
The problem is this team is a bad mix thanks to poor decisions by the GM. The Seguin trade was a complete disaster. Complete and utter disaster. Eriksson hasn't been what he was, whether it's due to injury or not, Smith has completely regressed and should be a trade piece now, Morrow is nowhere to be found, and Fraser was a fourth-line mucker who's gone. The Boychuk trade was a huge blunder that tore apart the defensive fabric of this team. Looking for cap space, the smarter thing would've been moving the much less talented and injury-prone McQuaid, the useless Bartkowski, and never wasting $600k on Gagne.
Chiarelli needs to redeem himself and revamp this roster. Smith, Soderberg, Eriksson, Bartkowski, McQuaid, and many others should be on the block. As nice a player as Soderberg is, you can't overpay him for what he brings. That's the formula that put this twam in Cap Hell in the first place.
- Der_Fuhrer22

Adam McQuaid and Dennis Seidenberg are playing the worst hockey of their lives, and Claude Julien has publicly called out his defense about a billion times now, but has left a player who was probably their best defenseman in his last game played (all the way back on Dec. 31), in the press box as a healthy scratch for the last 17 games. You don't find that strange? Not even a little bit?

Every complaint you just had about Bartkowski's game, if you remove the name, sounds like McQuaid and Seidenberg for the last month, too, by the way. These guys are not getting the job done, and if Julien is as frustrated as he says he is, he'd send a message to somebody on that blue line and try to revive the internal competition they raved about throughout training camp.

Adam McQuaid and Dennis Seidenberg are playing the worst hockey of their lives, and Claude Julien has publicly called out his defense about a billion times now, but has left a player who was probably their best defenseman in his last game played (all the way back on Dec. 31), in the press box as a healthy scratch for the last 17 games. You don't find that strange? Not even a little bit?

Every complaint you just had about Bartkowski's game, if you remove the name, sounds like McQuaid and Seidenberg for the last month, too, by the way. These guys are not getting the job done, and if Julien is as frustrated as he says he is, he'd send a message to somebody on that blue line and try to revive the internal competition they raved about throughout training camp.
- tyanderson

I agree! Sit Seidenberg down a couple games to straighten him out a bit and send a message.

Ty, I certainly agree that both Seidenberg and McQuaid have been awful. Seidenberg has simply not been the same since his knee injury, period. Dougie Hamilton has been brutal of late too, so what's Julien's option? Put in a guy he simply doesn't trust just for the sake of it?
Clearly you like Bart, but there's a reason he's an eternal scratch -for the one decent game he plays, all the flaws are glaring when he stays in the lineup. He's just not that good and is no better option than what the Bruins already have. I don't find it strange at all that he sits, but what I do find strange is saying Miller is an interchangeable part with McQuaid. Miller has been quietly excellent, a tough, physical force and a +19 to McQuaid's -1.
You can't really blame the guys here. They are what they are. It's all in Chia Pete's lap, since he's the one who gave Boychuk away. That single maneuver trashed this blueline. It was incredibly idiotic to believe Bartkowski could ever replace Boychuk, but that's what management was saying early on. Thinking Morrow and Trotman could make a difference was silly too.
So how do they fix the defense and add scoring punch? It seems Chiarelli is fixated on third-line material like Stewart, and the price for D is astronomical. Should they revisit a Lucic-for-Oshie deal? Maybe look at Yandle as an offensive D option and acquire another solid defender? I don't see an impact trade unless Chiarelli is willing to part with bigger names.